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Clinton Former Church: Don't Use Wright To Polarize
March 25, 2008 10:24 PM
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On Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton re-stoked the flames of the controversy surrounding Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor, saying she would have long ago distanced herself from Rev. Jeremiah Wright if she had attended his church.
"He would not have been my pastor," Clinton told a gathering of the campaign press corps, repeating a line she used earlier in the day on a Pittsburgh radio program. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."
But the pastor at the church that Clinton did once attend has recently expressed public support for Wright. He's even proclaimed it a "grave injustice" to make a judgment on Wright based off of "two or three sound bites," and criticized those who would "use a few of [Wright's] quotes to polarize."
Last week, Dean Snyder, the senior minister at the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington D.C. -- which the Clintons famously attended while in the White House -- released a little noticed statement offering a sympathetic defense of the totality of Wright's work.
"The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize."
Snyder, it should be noted, was not the pastor at Foundry during the Clinton years. That was the previous minister, J. Philip Wogaman. Moreover, there seems to be confusion as to exactly what church Clinton now attends. Her campaign did not return requests for comment.
However, Foundry was cited on numerous occasions as a steady presence during the first couple's time in the White House. And in January 2001, Bill Clinton gave a farewell speech to the congregation, thanking the church for its work in the city as well as for its "courage" to welcome gay and lesbian Christians.
Snyder, according to the church's website, became senior minister in 2002. "Before his appointment to Foundry, he served as director of communications for the Baltimore-Washington Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church. His writings on theology, Biblical interpretation, and Christian mission have appeared in dozens of publications."
And in a recent New York Times article, even he acknowledged that some in his congregation were aghast at Wright's remarks.
"During staff meetings this week at his church," the Times reported, "Snyder said he noticed the rising awareness among some African-Americans of white Americans, he said, 'who don't understand the history of black people in this country and the role of the black church as a prophetic voice, and that in church you can say things that you couldn't in larger society.'"
Tuesday, March 25, 2008
MEDIA EXPOSED -- REV. WRIGHT'S SERMON
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Article from Huffington Post
MEDIA EXPOSED ! Coniving Media Never Mentions Rev. Wright's Sermon Was Quoting A WHITE MAN on Fox News !
(NOTE: For the snooping media who desires to blame Senator Obama for evey post on this community blog.....HE DID NOT POST THIS.....I DID !!!!)
Meet the man who inspired Reverend Jeremiah Wright's now famous tirade about America's foreign policy inciting the terrorist attacks of September 11.
His name is Ambassador Edward Peck. And he is a retired, white, career U.S. diplomat who served 32-years in the U.S. Foreign Service and was chief of the U.S. mission to Iraq under Jimmy Carter -- hardly the black-rage image with which Wright has been stigmatized.
In fact, when Wright took the pulpit to give his post-9/11 address -- which has since become boiled down to a five second sound bite about "America's chickens coming home to roost" -- he prefaced his remarks as a "faith footnote," an indication that he was deviating from his sermon.
"I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday," Wright declared. "He was on Fox News. This is a white man and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true: America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Wright then went on to list more than a few U.S. foreign policy endeavors that, by the tone of his voice and manner of his expression, he viewed as more or less deplorable. This included, as has been demonstrated in the endless loop of clips from his sermon, bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki and nuking "far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."
"Violence begets violence," Wright said, "hatred begets hatred, and terrorism begets terrorism."
And then he concluded by putting the comments on Peck's shoulders: "A white ambassador said that yall, not a black militant, not a reverend who preaches about racism, an ambassador whose eyes are wide open and is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice... the ambassador said that the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have, but they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them... let me stop my faith footnote right there."
So it seems that while Wright did believe American held some responsibility for 9/11, his views, which have been described as radically outside the political mainstream, were actually influenced by a career foreign policy official.
Who is Peck? The ambassador, who has offered controversial criticism of Israeli policy in the West Bank but also warned against the Iraq War, was lecturing on a cruise ship and was unavailable for comment. But officials at Peck's former organization, the Council for the National Interest, a non-profit group that advocates reducing Israel's influence on U.S. Middle East policy, offered descriptions of the man.
"Peck is very outspoken," said Eugene Bird, who now heads CNI. "He is also very good at making phrases that have a resonance with the American people. When he came off of that Fox News, a few days later he said they would never invite me back again."
And what, exactly, did Peck say in that Fox News interview that inspired Wright's words?
Here are some quotes from an appearance the Ambassador made on the network on October 11, 2001, which may or may not have been the segment Wright was referring to. On the show, Peck said he thought it was illogical to tie Saddam Hussein to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, and that while the then-Iraqi leader had "some very sound and logical reasons not to like [the United States]," he and Osama bin Laden had no other ties.
From there, Peck went on to ascribe motives for what prompted the 9/11 attacks. "Stopping the economic embargo and bombings of Iraq," he said, "things to which Osama bin Laden has alluded as the kinds of things he doesn't like. He doesn't think it's appropriate for the United States to be doing, from his perspective, all the terrible things that he sees us as having been doing, the same way Saddam Hussein feels. So from that perspective, they have a commonality of interests. But they also have a deeply divergent view of the role of Islam in government, which would be a problem."
NOTE: So there you go. All this time the media NEVER let us know that Rev. Wright was simply quoting someone else....a distinguished WHITE MAN....on FOX NEWS ! It is time for us....blacks whites, hispanics and all to let it be known....the coniving, destructive, falsified, un-American, hate mongoring tactics of the media WILL NOT BE TOLERATED !
Visit: http://www.Blacks4Barack.org
Article from Huffington Post
MEDIA EXPOSED ! Coniving Media Never Mentions Rev. Wright's Sermon Was Quoting A WHITE MAN on Fox News !
(NOTE: For the snooping media who desires to blame Senator Obama for evey post on this community blog.....HE DID NOT POST THIS.....I DID !!!!)
Meet the man who inspired Reverend Jeremiah Wright's now famous tirade about America's foreign policy inciting the terrorist attacks of September 11.
His name is Ambassador Edward Peck. And he is a retired, white, career U.S. diplomat who served 32-years in the U.S. Foreign Service and was chief of the U.S. mission to Iraq under Jimmy Carter -- hardly the black-rage image with which Wright has been stigmatized.
In fact, when Wright took the pulpit to give his post-9/11 address -- which has since become boiled down to a five second sound bite about "America's chickens coming home to roost" -- he prefaced his remarks as a "faith footnote," an indication that he was deviating from his sermon.
"I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday," Wright declared. "He was on Fox News. This is a white man and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true: America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Wright then went on to list more than a few U.S. foreign policy endeavors that, by the tone of his voice and manner of his expression, he viewed as more or less deplorable. This included, as has been demonstrated in the endless loop of clips from his sermon, bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki and nuking "far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."
"Violence begets violence," Wright said, "hatred begets hatred, and terrorism begets terrorism."
And then he concluded by putting the comments on Peck's shoulders: "A white ambassador said that yall, not a black militant, not a reverend who preaches about racism, an ambassador whose eyes are wide open and is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice... the ambassador said that the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have, but they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them... let me stop my faith footnote right there."
So it seems that while Wright did believe American held some responsibility for 9/11, his views, which have been described as radically outside the political mainstream, were actually influenced by a career foreign policy official.
Who is Peck? The ambassador, who has offered controversial criticism of Israeli policy in the West Bank but also warned against the Iraq War, was lecturing on a cruise ship and was unavailable for comment. But officials at Peck's former organization, the Council for the National Interest, a non-profit group that advocates reducing Israel's influence on U.S. Middle East policy, offered descriptions of the man.
"Peck is very outspoken," said Eugene Bird, who now heads CNI. "He is also very good at making phrases that have a resonance with the American people. When he came off of that Fox News, a few days later he said they would never invite me back again."
And what, exactly, did Peck say in that Fox News interview that inspired Wright's words?
Here are some quotes from an appearance the Ambassador made on the network on October 11, 2001, which may or may not have been the segment Wright was referring to. On the show, Peck said he thought it was illogical to tie Saddam Hussein to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, and that while the then-Iraqi leader had "some very sound and logical reasons not to like [the United States]," he and Osama bin Laden had no other ties.
From there, Peck went on to ascribe motives for what prompted the 9/11 attacks. "Stopping the economic embargo and bombings of Iraq," he said, "things to which Osama bin Laden has alluded as the kinds of things he doesn't like. He doesn't think it's appropriate for the United States to be doing, from his perspective, all the terrible things that he sees us as having been doing, the same way Saddam Hussein feels. So from that perspective, they have a commonality of interests. But they also have a deeply divergent view of the role of Islam in government, which would be a problem."
NOTE: So there you go. All this time the media NEVER let us know that Rev. Wright was simply quoting someone else....a distinguished WHITE MAN....on FOX NEWS ! It is time for us....blacks whites, hispanics and all to let it be known....the coniving, destructive, falsified, un-American, hate mongoring tactics of the media WILL NOT BE TOLERATED !
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN REVOTE
THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN REVOTE
Why does the news media blame the need to fix the issue of the Michigan and Florida revote on the candidates?
The DNC made the rules. The state governors knew the rules as well as the voters, news media--everybody. They chose to ignore them.
Why can’t the DNC stand firm? Why do the voters think that they are being disenfranchised when they knew what was going to happen, and they chose to do it anyway?
Why is Hillary trying to convince the voters that she cares about them when she disobeyed the rules that she originally agreed to? Now, because she thinks that she is behind, it is advantageous for her to count those votes.
Why does she blame Barack Obama for this mess when she did not respect the DNC rules. She actually went to both of those states and accepted a victory for something that she was not supposed to be involved in.
What does this say about her character? In order to lead well, you must first be a good follower.
It is obvious Hillary has not been a uniter – Barack Obama has.
It is obvious that Hillary twists everything that Barack Obama has said on the issues to make it look like he does not have integrity or character.
Why does the news media blame the need to fix the issue of the Michigan and Florida revote on the candidates?
The DNC made the rules. The state governors knew the rules as well as the voters, news media--everybody. They chose to ignore them.
Why can’t the DNC stand firm? Why do the voters think that they are being disenfranchised when they knew what was going to happen, and they chose to do it anyway?
Why is Hillary trying to convince the voters that she cares about them when she disobeyed the rules that she originally agreed to? Now, because she thinks that she is behind, it is advantageous for her to count those votes.
Why does she blame Barack Obama for this mess when she did not respect the DNC rules. She actually went to both of those states and accepted a victory for something that she was not supposed to be involved in.
What does this say about her character? In order to lead well, you must first be a good follower.
It is obvious Hillary has not been a uniter – Barack Obama has.
It is obvious that Hillary twists everything that Barack Obama has said on the issues to make it look like he does not have integrity or character.
STOP BEING INFLUENCED BY NEWS MEDIA CLIPS OUT OF CONTEXT
PLEASE STOP BEING SWAYED BY THE CLIPS OUT OF CONTEXT.
TO THE NEWS MEDIA:
PLEASE STOP SWAYING PUBLIC OPINION BY PLAYING CLIPS OUT OF CONTEXT.
The news media owes Michelle Obama an apology for playing her comments out of context and making her look unpatriotic.
They never play the whole clip, which explained what she meant. The have incited people to believe this claim to be true. This, coupled with Rev. Wright’s comments has caused undo problems and stress for Barack Obama and his campaign.
I DEMAND THAT YOU SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
You are also doing the same thing regarding Rev. Wright’s comments. Even after Mr. Obama’s speech, you keep playing those clips as if everyone does not already know what they say. WHY?
IN ADDITION you keep talking about the flag pen and not putting his hand over his heart during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner, something I have never seen anyone do.
WHAT’S THE POINT?
WHY KEEP SOWING THESE SEEDS OF DISCORD WITHOUT THE ACCOMPANYING EXPLANATION?
STOP THE HATE
Race and Politics
CALLING BLACKS, BLACK PREACHERS AND BLACK AND WHITE CHRISTIANS -- IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! – PLEASE STOP THE HATE!
Calling all Christians, Black or White to exercise love and forgiveness. You cannot be forgiven by God if you refuse to forgive others. By this shall all men know that you are His disciples, by your love. This love should be contagious enough to touch the hearts of those who are not Christians.
What would it say about Barack Obama if he did not forgive his pastor? What kind of Christian would he be?
The same love that it takes to forgive his pastor is the same love with which he can forgive America for the injustices to Black people, and not hold resentment or animosity towards them and yet not be unpatriotic. He loves his country.
Those who want him to leave the church completely to prove his patriotism are focusing on the fact that Barack Obama has had a twenty-year relationship with a man who they say hates America. Their “fear” which they know is unfounded, is that these same ideologies are being masked in Mr. Obama and will show up when he becomes Commander and Chief.
This, in spite of his continued denouncement of these beliefs.
Black pastors who use their pulpits to spew out hate and unpatriotic statements are accountable to God and God alone. However, Christians can challenge their leaders and other Christians to hold to the standard of the Word of God.
Black pastors who use their pulpits to pit one democratic candidate against the other with very disturbing and derogatory statements are also accountable to God. They are accountable because they are not preaching the Gospel of peace and love; and, they are misrepresenting God in their behavior and actions.
Black people -- Why are we tearing each other down? If you want to vote for a particular candidate, so be it. But, why do it at the destruction of the other?
Blacks are being pitted against each other. The old philosophy of divide and conquer has been used since slavery to keep us from uniting as a people. Don't let them do it!
In the past, White pastors, presidents and elected officials have never had to give an account for the fact that they condoned the travesties of slavery and indeed had slaves themselves all in the name of Christianity.
Multitudes of Whites hid behind the sheets and masks of the KKK, who were elected officials, law enforcement officers, preachers and ordinary citizens. They preached hatred and committed unspeakable crimes against Blacks in the name of Christianity.
The nation of Islam is very leary of Christianity (which they call the white man’s religion) because of the crimes and atrocities of slavery done in the name of Christianity.
We are the only race of people in America who have a hyphenated name as a race, African-American. Why, because we were not immigrants. We did not come to America of our own free will. We were sold by our own people, and then captured by slave traders to come here to “serve” Americans in the building of this country.
Society treated Black people as property and did not consider them to be a part of the constitution’s claim that “all men are created equal”. They did not consider us as men.
TODAY!
The Conservative Talk Show hosts have admitted today (March 19 or 20, 2008) that they are launching “Operation Chaos”. That they are going to look for anything they can to cause CHAOS among the democratic candidates. This includes telling republicans to vote for Hillary to give her a false sense of belief that the people are for her, only to defeat her in the general election because they really hate her.
Prejudiced individuals in our society are on a witch hunt and are looking for anything to discredit Black preachers. They are not at all looking at any of the white preachers who say inflammatory things against the country in the name of Christianity.
I heard Rush Limbaugh play a very disturbing tape from the sermons of Rev. James David Manning of Harlem (Black), who made some very disturbing and derogatory statements against Barack Obama, even going so far as to call him a "freak" because of his biracial DNA. He also called him a "long-legged pimp" among other things.
It was so horrible that I literally got sick. The pastor had the audacity to say that it was the Word of God that was in his mouth. He spoke some other very bad things that seemed to portray himself as God to his congregation. He seemed to have great control over the minds of the members of his congregation demanding that they accept his statements as gospel while at the same time degrading them.
If you serve the one and only true God like I do, please stop the hatred in the name of Christianity.
America needs to be healed! We need to truly love and forgive. It needs to begin with Christians Black and White – This is where it started.
I feel a responsibility, and I don’t know how, to go out and talk to Black pastors and Christians (Black and White) about this matter of love and forgiveness, and representing the true character of God and not our flesh or lower natures.
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